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Examining the bad fruits of Robert S. Boylan

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Recently, Mormon blogger-apologist Robert Boylan ( aka - ' Scriptural Mormonism ' ) took the opportunity to make some inflammatory remarks regarding Ex-Mormon Evangelical Micah Wilder, who had been part of the Christian musical ministry group geared towards Mormons & Ex-Mormons, known as Adam's Road.  Last month, Wilder confessed on his website to years of unrepentant sin during his time in the group and is no longer participating in ministry. A few brief points: 1. As awful as the situation is for all involved, confession of that sin is both biblical & appropriate. 2. I hope that Micah belongs to a solid church, that practices both membership & church discipline and are actively praying for & walking alongside him through a biblical process of repentance & restoration to the body. ( Please , be in prayer for them! )  7/30/24 Update: It seems as though he is not seeking to repent at this time, which is rather worrying. 3. Whenever circumstances as t

Refuting Connor Smith & FAIRMormon on alleged False Prophecies in the Bible

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Last week, a follower notified me of this post in the Somewhat Civil Christian Debates FaceBook group by their Mormon moderator: In this article, we are going to explore Smith's arguments & whether or not they hold any water under scrutiny, and I shall do my best to respond point by point. First , I'd like to point out that Smith is not giving credit to his source for these allegations of false prophecies in the Bible.  The content of Smith's forthcoming arguments originates (almost verbatim) from this  FAIRMormon / LDS article  and if one takes the time to compare the two, it is rather plain to see that he is well... plagiarizing his peers arguments here. Of course, Smith is free to do as he pleases on the internet. However I cannot help but wonder, why he didn't bother to just drop the link & point people to the relevant sections to read it for themselves? But I digress.  Those of us who are not believing members of the Mormon religion, may already be familiar

Mormon apologetics: Appeals to theosis critically examined

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Theosis or Apotheosis: Which is it? Have you ever talked to a Mormon, either online or in person who quoted one of the early church fathers to support their belief that they can become a god in the next life?  If so, you're likely already aware that Mormons believe in a doctrine called ' eternal progression ', and when speaking with Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox or Protestants/Evangelicals they will often claim that such a doctrine was taught by the early church fathers in their literature (Patristics), and is best known today as ' theosis '. This is then usually followed up with one or more quotations that in some cases, truly do seem to lend support to such a claim.  However, it must be pointed out that this is a false equivocation on the part of the Mormon and is by no means a novel tactic. ( See this excellent  article  from Fred Anson on beggarsbread.org for more information ) The definition of theosis that Mormons functionally use is actually known as apot

Justin Martyr taught taught that all men were deemed worthy of becoming gods... the Mormons agree, but should we?

[ This is Part 1 in a series on  Theosis according to Mormonism  ] Anyone who has ever engaged in rigorous discussions with Mormons, particularly in the online space can attest to what seems to be a more & more common usage of early church fathers (Patristics) quotes that according to them - lend historical support for Mormon doctrine, in this case... Justin Martyr: " But as my discourse is not intended to touch on this point, but to prove to you that the Holy Ghost reproaches men because they were made like God , free from suffering and death, provided that they kept His commandments, and were deemed deserving of the name of His sons, and yet they, becoming like Adam and Eve, work out death for themselves; let the interpretation of the Psalm be held just as you wish, yet thereby it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming “gods,” and of having power to become sons of the Highest ; and shall be each by himself judged and condemned like Adam and Eve.”  -  Di

Theophilus of Antioch taught that man can become God... were the Mormons right after all?

[ This is Part 3 in a series on Theosis according to Mormonism ] Anyone who has ever engaged in rigorous discussions with Mormons, particularly in the online space can attest to what seems to be a more & more common usage of early church fathers (Patristics) quotes that according to them - lend historical support for Mormon doctrine, in this case... Theophilus of Antioch: " But some one will say to us, Was man made by nature mortal? Certainly not. Was he, then, immortal? Neither do we affirm this. But one will say, Was he, then, nothing? Not even this hits the mark. He was by nature neither mortal nor immortal.  For if He had made him immortal from the beginning, He would have made him God. Again, if He had made him mortal, God would seem to be the cause of his death. Neither, then, immortal nor yet mortal did He make him, but, as we have said above, capable of both; so that if he should incline to the things of immortality, keeping the commandment of God, he should receive a

David Alexander: An Amazing Testimony or Mormon Myth? (Part 3)

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This is  Part 3  of our David Alexander series: Part 1 Part 2 We continue our examination of Alexander with his third video posted on March 8th, 2023: Summary: Alexander wastes no time here in bringing up a video that he watched from Apologia Studios, featuring Pastor Jeff Durbin who was speaking with a pair of Mormon missionaries.  At 3:02 Alexander says the following: " I'm not really inclined to question someone's integrity, he's obviously highly intelligent intellectually, spiritually he's dull as a post as far as I'm concerned. But he's highly intelligent, and I'm sure he [Durbin] knows Church History fairly well. " Clearly, we're off to a good start here.  " ...Even though the Church History that he knows was written by the victors... " Alexander is being suggestive here, what he's really saying is that we don't know the real history because it's been covered up. " By what standard can he substantiate such a cl